problems extracting piply
  • krinolen
    Hello..I just recently got a raspberry pi and I downloaded piplay 0.8 beta 3 and beta 4..but each time I extract it it says its corrupt and unable to burn image..even if I use winrar to extract the image..can some one please advise me on what to do or email me instructions as I'm completely inexprerianced with computor programing and installing os systems..thank you
  • ian57ian57
    wrong version of winzip? try winrar ;)
  • beta_tester
    or use 7-zip from http://7-zip.org/
    but maybe your download is not fully completed. second last time, I had also an corrupt file. downloading again fixed the problem.
    unfortunately there is no md5 or sha1 checksum given, to check if the download is free of corruption.
  • krinolen
    I have downloaded it quiet a few times now..even tried retropie and chameleon pi and it gives me the same result with winrar and winzip..will try the 7 zip now..thanks for the info
  • krinolen
    I have tried 7-zip and I still get a corrupt image..really frustrating
  • beta_tester
    but you are talking about, that you get an error at extracting time - is it right?
    or is it extracting without errors, but you don't know how to bring the extracted image to a SDcard?
    but, it is a bit strange, that everything you downloaded is not extracting well.
    this looks to me like a problem with your downloader, your internetline or another program is corrupting your files. possibly it can be also a hardware problem (RAM of harddrive, but then you would get a blue screen in extreme cases)

    what browser are you using... do you use a downloadmanager?

    the file "piplay-0.8-beta4.1.img.zip", I downloaded, is 3.408.221.506 bytes big - yours too?
  • krinolen
    I'm sure mine is the same size..I must just check on that..it extracts perfectly fine but the problem comes when I want to burn the image to my sd card..win 32 disk imager says the file is invalid and whem trying to mount it its saying the image file is corrupt..I doubt its my internet due to the fact that I am downloading different zip files that are operating fine..only img files are giving me hell..
  • beta_tester
    oookay, then not the downloaded file is the problem.
    your SD card seems to be the problem.
    Win32 Disk Manager is doing nothing than copying the content of any file you've select to the destination you've selected byte by byte (or block by block).
    it does NOT check the content of the file if there is a valid filesystem, nor the proper size of the destination or something else.
    so I assume, that your SD card is too small, or has defect blocks, or the writeprotection slider is not perfectly in write position, or the contacts of the SD card or its slot are dirty and has no good contacts... or something else is not good on transferring the image to your SD card.

    the current image "piplay-0.8-beta4.1.img" needs a SD card bigger than 8GB (exactly 7.822.376.960 bytes)...
    unhappily the most recent image is unnecessarily big, that it will fit only on a SD card that is bigger than 8GB. (even a 8GB SD card may not fit except the size is exactly the size of the image or slightly bigger - every manugacturer has its own definition of size - these size may vary in few MBytes, kBytes, or even bytes)

    if the size is the cause of your problems, are you able to transfer the standard "2014-06-20-wheezy-raspbian.img" from the official RaspberryPi website to your sd card?
    if so, then maybe you can install the PiPlay stuff by using the installer from inside the running raspbian...
    pi@raspberrypi$> wget http://pimame.org/installer.sh
    pi@raspberrypi$> bash install.sh


    if not, you can try to change the SD card, if an other is working, or change the sd card reader you currently use, or if the card reader is an usb device, change the usb port.
  • krinolen
    I'm using 2 different sd card readers and its 16 gigs in capacity..will give the installer a shot..just explain how I go about it..do I install my raspbian os then hook it up to the net and install via pimame?
  • krinolen
    Ps: I do have raspbian on my noobs sd card ..is that the same as the wheezy raspbian?
  • beta_tester
    yes, the raspbian on the noobs boot loader is installing, is the same wheezy raspbian I meant.
    is this noobs sd card the only working sd card you have and/or a shipped one you bought as noobs sd card?

    I would not use your only working noobs SD card, if you are not able to write a proper image to your card by using windows, I don't know, what the problem is with your cardreader or what fails on transferring (hardware-/software- problems???)...

    I have an other suggestion - try to make a new NOOBS SD card with your two spare 16GB sd cards!
    following these guide: http://www.raspberrypi.org/help/noobs-setup/
    download the most recent NOOBS zip from the RaspberryPi website (the light version one). and use the "SD Formatter" to format the SD cards. then copy all the files from inside the NOOBS zip file to the SD card (drag-and-drop).

    WARNING: use the eject option of windows to flush all unsaved files to sd card to safely unplug the sd card from the sd card slot!!! otherwise it ma happen, that not all files will be on the card when you unplug it.

    and use the new NOOBS SD cards to install Raspbian and then install the PiPlay on the Raspbian with the install.sh script.

    hopefully the formatting and transferring the few common NOOBS files will work.

    EDIT: if you familiar with Linux, boot from your existing NOOBS SD card and plug in your usb SD card reader with your new 16GB sd card to the running RPi. from there you can format the new sd card, mount it and download, unzip and copy the NOOBS (lite is unzipped ~25MB tiny) file to it... then sync, umount and use that new sd card to boot from next time (unplug the cardreader and plug the new sd card into RPi)
    when this fails, then you know, your hardware (sd card or sd card reader is shit)
  • beta_tester
    once you have a running raspbian system, boot into raspbian and log in.

    if you are not using an uk-english keyboard, you should fist change the language settings and the keyboard layout, by using
    sudo raspi-config

    then update everything:
    sudo apt-get update
    sudo apt-get -y upgrade
    sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade
    sudo apt-get -y autoremove --purge
    sudo apt-get -y autoclean
    (take long time to finish)

    download and run the install script:
    wget http://pimame.org/installer.sh
    bash installer.sh
    sudo reboot
    (takes long time to finish)
  • krinolen
    Thank you..will give it a crack later..thanks a lot for the help..I tried some other methods but all failed terriblly in obtaining a working img file from the zip folder
  • beta_tester
    I just tried out from scratch - a blank SD card up to final PiPlay - it took me ~2 hours, but it works.
    (format SD, copy NOOBS Lite, install raspbian via noobs over internet, setup and update raspbian, run PiPlay installer script, update PiPlay, install MAME)

    all I used was
    a running RPi
    + a working internet connection to download necessary files
    + an USB SD Card reader to write NOOBS to the new SD Card
    + a blank 16GB SD Card as new NOOBS destination for future boot.
    nothing else (no windows PC).
  • krinolen
    Can't I just duplicate my original noobs sd card and work form there?
  • beta_tester
    yes and no.

    if your PC would work, you can use win32 Disk Manager to create a image file of your NOOBS sd card and after that, you write that image back to the new (bigger) sd card.
    but you would waste a lot of time.
    1. creating an image of a whole SD card takes a lot of time - and writing back even more.
    2. you still do not know, if something on your PC is the problem - so you may still get a corrupt sd image.
    3. because of the sd cards have different sizes you have to re-run the raspbian installation of NOOBS on the new sd card again.

    it is quicker to try to format your SD card and copy the ~25MB amount of files of a NOOBS lite zip file from the website and then install raspbian via NOOBS and internet.
    that will save the time you would waste with creating and writing the clone of your old SD card.
    the time consumption is splitted as follows:
    1/3'rd takes the installation of raspbian via NOOBS over internet.
    1/3'rd takes the initial setup and update every thing.
    1/3'rd takes the installation of piplay via installer script.
    (youmay speed up the installation, when you overclock your raspbian installation after initial boot. then updates and the script is running a bit faster)
  • krinolen
    Howzit bro..I eventually sorted it out..it was my disk imaging software..my older bro is an I.t consultant and he told me to check it out and it worked!!!
  • beta_tester
    problem solved?
    so everything is fine for you right now?
  • krinolen
    Working perfectly fine..thank you again for your assisstance..I was so lost that it wasn't even funny
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